VE Pump cam plate off 180 degrees?

[DMan1198]

Or anywhere that sells key stock would be able to get you going

[Diesel]

Where I live is the land of electric cars like that really expensive thing (the name is not coming to me right now but its $100K and ugly). The only injection pump shops we have sell $200 turkey basters and "deep root feeding" equipment for your prized dogwood. I've seen mothers cover their childrens ears when a diesel drives by.

If anyone knows the part number on the woodruff or approximately what size it is I may be able to locate it a little farther away from home or at a Cummins store.

[ellis93]

O'Reilly's sells assortment packs that have what you need....inexpensive and in the help section/motor might

Also I've mashed several and used what I'm telling you to buy,absolutely no issues with them. I don't really think there is anything special about them or what cummins/Bosch installs.

[Diesel]

O'Reilly's sells assortment packs that have what you need....inexpensive and in the help section/motor might

Also I've mashed several and used what I'm telling you to buy,absolutely no issues with them. I don't really think there is anything special about them or what cummins/Bosch installs.

Thanks. So if I find the assortment from Help it should have one that will work? I dont have much of a reference for how tall it needs to be since its almost all drilled out now. Thats the only part that I am worried about...don't want to mushroom another! Any tips on how to avoid the mushrooming next time? Would it be better to bolt the pump to the timing cover before starting the nut on the gear? Last time I snugged up the gear nut while tightening to the timing case a little too.

[ellis93]

Don't really have a sure fire way to not do this again. I just try to "feel" for the key to index. A flexable head mirror would help you see if it's all lined up.
There should be several different sized half moon keys in that assortment,but only one will work out.

[Diesel]

Cool much appreciated.

One more question: the bracket that you loosen and swing out of the way. It has a bolt underneath at the very bottom you remove and one above it that you loosen. Is the lowest bolt supposed to thread through the powersteering bracket, the swinging bracket, and into the block? Basically is the block threaded behind the very lowest bolt?

[ellis93]

If memory serves me right I'd say there is a L shaped bracket that bolts along with the "swing away" bracket in that lower hole. So I am going to say that's right.
Bad thing is,very soon I'll be doing this same job. The same job I've done more than a few times and I can not remember clearly

[Diesel]

So I decided to throw in the towel on the original pump. Ordered a reman'd one from Hungry Diesel. Now I did not pin time the engine when I removed original pump. To install the new pump should I crank until the pin goes in? Rotating counterclockwise then clockwise to take out gear slack, pin the timing pin, and then install the new pump and unscrew the lock bolt?

[RCCUMMINS89]

Just turn things so you can line up the keyway.... Then tighten the gear nut down. Then, rotate the pump to stock.... run it and adjust from there.

[Diesel]

You mean turn the engine to match the pump, tighten nut, then line up the timing line?

[fatty]

You mean turn the engine to match the pump, tighten nut, then line up the timing line?

Yup. I've done it that way every time I've had a pump off.

[Diesel]

Awesome! Can't wait to have a leak free pump! I have a fresh fuel filter waiting to spin on. Got a new seal for the fuel heater. Lift pump has recently been replaced and lines look good. Hopefully I get the 3200 spring and turned fuel pin with the pump which means I'll want to get injectors for xmas...!!!

[Diesel]

UPDATE/PLEA FOR MORE HELP!

Well I got a new pump from Hungry Diesel but unfortunately his pump guy sent me a wrong pump (no hungry diesel fault - actually really helpful and definitely recommended).

So I need to take the truck on a road trip on Monday. Decided to retry my luck on the pump I had. Here's whats up:

Flipped cam plate 180 and reassembled. Pulled out key very easily and replaced with a new one. Fired up but smokes like a chimney. The afc tube is not hooked up.

Shut it down and realized timing was bumped about 1/4". This seems like a lot of advance. Prior to this much advance it was even more and wouldn't even start. Brought it down to 1/4" (as far as I could without gently tweaking lines) and it started.

When it's running I feel like it's much quieter than before, has less power, and sort of a stumble. The stumble I could be wrong about. Also I feel like it revs quick now (maybe function of the timing).

I just want my old truck back. Can all that timing be the root of my troubles? It's smokes ALOT.

And finally I have a leak on the piece on the pump that is angled down on the side with a hard line coming off of it. So I turned the brass nut on the side of it to tighten it. Did that alter some sort of cold start enrichment or something and thus create all this smoke? I believe its called the KSB?

Anyway, if anyone can help me get it running right, timed right, and no leaks from that KSB angled thing I would be mucho appreciative.

[ellis93]

Wish I knew something about the internals of our pumps so I could help.....but I don't.
I doubt you you messed up on the timing of the pump gear/key way again so I'd say it would have to be in the pump. Maybe related to your leak too.

[RCCUMMINS89]

Sounds like the camplate is now correct, but perhaps the keyway has not been lined up correctly.

Try and remove the oil tube, and use a mirror and light (the girl's makeup mirror works) and see if you can physically see the woodruff key.

a 1/4" or even a 1/2 is not going to make it smoke while idling.... it is going to take 10 degrees + to make it smoke black or white at idle.