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Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby cmann250 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:30 pm

What 's the verdict on air bags if the ride of my truck is ok now and doesn't squat with a reasonable load on it? I found a truck with a Kelderman air ride rear that I think I could persuade the owner to sell to me if I removed it. If I go that route, are all the parts there to put it back to regular leafs?

One way or another, I'm going to purchase a truck that was a donor that has 2 bags on the rear. Is the ride so much better? If it's a world of difference, I'll spring for it. I don't know anything about air bags, but I keep stumbling into air bag set-ups. I know CumminsPower59 and bmoeller has or had Kelderman's. Anyone else?
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby SNOOT » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:51 pm

I have a single bag setup but never have put it on the truck as I wish I had something for the front as well.
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby CumminsPower59 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:17 pm

Caleb, I had a Kelderman single bag on my 92, worked really well. All that I had to remove was the rear shackle hangers. I kept them as I took the Kelderman off the truck and returned it to stock before I sold it last week.
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby PToombs » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:19 pm

On a Kelderman set up the bag is only used when empty. When you have a load the Kelderman frame bottoms out the bag and the truck rides on the springs like normal. It makes a much smoother ride empty.
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby CumminsPower59 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:30 pm

Kind of, it can be used like that, but you can put more air in it. I hauled a full load of pavers in the back of it, put some air in it, and brought the back end back up to normal.
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby xohcef » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:57 pm

I have a Kelderman dual bag set up in my truck as well and I really like it. No matter what, empty or loaded I always ride on just the bags. Its the smoothest ride I've felt in a Dually. Plus I like to be able to run a lot less pressure unloaded and set the rear down some. :D
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby bmoeller » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:36 pm

The air bags are usually good for 100+psi. Running empty, the Kelderman single bag setup only needs ~22-24psi on a club cab truck. Add more load, add enough more air to put the ride height back where it was before. Makes the truck ride great, loaded or not. :D

Have yet put enough of a load on the truck to make it so the air bag couldn't support the weight. I'll be adding an air ride control valve and dump valve to mine. That way, it will be self-regulating, and I won't have to mes with it.
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby cmann250 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:10 pm

In either case, would it be less of a headache in the grand scheme to wire up a compressor? I'm trying to determine the total cost which will determine how bad I want a good ride :lol: I'm looking to improve the ride when empty. My leaf springs handle most loads pretty well.
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Re: Air bag(s) for the rear end

Postby bmoeller » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:35 pm

Got mine for $400 off of CF. IIRC, Ike paid $200 for his with a new bag.

Just a simple 12v air compressor is plenty for the air bag. You'll just need a shut off valve to limit the pressure to the tank and an on/off switch for the power. The "stock" line that came with it, has a valve stem on it like a tire. Very little change in air pressure changes the height.

I'm just going to be more eloberate with it because I'm easily annoyed. :lol: I know it is an option on the new ones now.
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