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M5 or Denny T???

Postby JD91 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:35 pm

about to order one... right now im runnin a heavily ground fuel pin and want to go with either the m5 or the denny t 2 just lookin for some opinions
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:15 pm

Not going to gain anything with an aftermarket pin over your ground stock one.

Might notice a better "ramp" but no additional fuel.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby BC847 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:19 pm

I'd go with a M&H M3
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby Black93 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:39 am

I always thought an M5 and Denny T are pretty much the same. Wish I'd went with an M3.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby JD91 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:43 am

Why the M3 over the m5?
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93 D350 CC, getrag, 4in diamond eye, 60# springs,3200 gov,arp's,fass 150,fass sump, BD SUPER B 58MM, 5x14 sticks, M&H timing spacer, cut fuel pin,valair clutch, auto meter pyro & boost......she screams!!
91.5 d350 RC, getrag, cut fuel pin, no bed lol "the beater"
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby CumminsPower59 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:06 am

Ramp profiles are different, M5 has a short ramp, while the M3 has a little bit longer ramp, so depending on how you have the starwheel, the M3 will take a little bit longer to get full fuel (still fast), as the M5 will go to full fuel with just a little movement.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby JD91 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:22 am

RCCUMMINS89 wrote:Not going to gain anything with an aftermarket pin over your ground stock one.

Might notice a better "ramp" but no additional fuel.




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91 w250 RC, getrag, 4in turbo back diamond eye
93 D350 CC, getrag, 4in diamond eye, 60# springs,3200 gov,arp's,fass 150,fass sump, BD SUPER B 58MM, 5x14 sticks, M&H timing spacer, cut fuel pin,valair clutch, auto meter pyro & boost......she screams!!
91.5 d350 RC, getrag, cut fuel pin, no bed lol "the beater"
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby dazedandconfused » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:38 am

All that shows is his pin may not have been ground enough. He didnt show his pin either unless i missed it. There are several guys running ground pins that are just as good if not better then the aftermarket. His idea of heavily ground may be far different then yours or ours.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby JD91 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:50 am

Touché
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93 D350 CC, getrag, 4in diamond eye, 60# springs,3200 gov,arp's,fass 150,fass sump, BD SUPER B 58MM, 5x14 sticks, M&H timing spacer, cut fuel pin,valair clutch, auto meter pyro & boost......she screams!!
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby oldestof11 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:18 pm

Personally, anything with a shallow ramp profile for 1/2-3/4" of the total then a nice deep cut would be ideal for reserving the fuel until you get into boost. I noticed a ton better spool-up going from a DennyT 2 to a DennyT 1.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:14 pm

If you have ever been inside your pump and paid attention to how far it can move, you can get full fuel with a stock pin...... With imo not all that heavily modified. However, if the ramp is not correct with the starwheel adjustment it can create less on the dyno due to flooding, ect......

Point being is an aftermarket pin can be an advantage if the ramp is better than the custom pin. But no overall fuel will be had over a properly ground stock pin
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby peobryant » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:17 pm

I've been more than satisfied with my DennyT fuel cone and it would be one of the first modifications I'd do.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:56 pm

ALLOT of denny t pins will allow the slide pin to slide passed the o ring causing an afc leak. Not sure on the m&h.

I have ran ground stock ones, Denny T, and BD fuel pins.... Personally the BD pin performed the best in my truck (best ramp). I have never ran an M&H pin, but in the future if I buy another pin it would be an M&H stage 1, 2, or 3.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby peobryant » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:49 pm

I've been running the DennyT cone for years now and haven't had a leak, and I have a few buddies that have as well and haven't had leaks either. You're actually the first person I've heard mention that.
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Re: M5 or Denny T???

Postby revemup15 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:00 am

Rccummins is right.... if your getting FULL travel out stock pin.... adding a waste of money pin... will get you zero gains
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