no power steering or breaks?

[Hansen01]

so i went to go pull a buddy out of a corn field today and out of no where i loose all power steering, so i think maybe theres air in the lines or something, so i got him out and started heading home and got to the first stop sign and have nooooo breaks just a super hard petal, what in the world is going on here? maybe a sheered key inside the cover?

[oldestof11]

Vacuum and PS are on the same gear. You are on the right track there.

[Hansen01]

i didnt here anything when it happend so i wouldnt think that the gear isself is bad or a snapped shaft, anything else it could be? ive never been into a front cover

[Hansen01]

well il hopefully be into the front cover tomorrow, will update what happened when i get there

[dazedandconfused]

I had the shaft between the vacume pump and ps pump sheer off on my 01 and caused the same issue.

[oldestof11]

But you would still have vacuum, no? IIRC, 2nd Gens had a hydroboost brake system that ran off the powersteering pump...

[dazedandconfused]

I couldn't tell you because about 30 seconds later it made a right turn by itself and I took on 15' of ditch and landed nose down in a 20-25' hole. I meant the steering issue in my above post.

[ellis93]

But you would still have vacuum, no? IIRC, 2nd Gens had a hydroboost brake system that ran off the powersteering pump...

Not all 2nd gens, I've had a 94,95,and one junk 96 that had vacuum boosters,however I don't know about the other 2 years of P-pump trucks. I've never seen a 24 valver without hydroboost brakes

[Hansen01]

got the front cover off tonight and it broke the shaft clean in half, anyone know where i go from here? where to get a shaft and whatnot?

[ellis93]

Bet cha Mr Mark Nixon has one

[Hansen01]

im assuming that these jus break of age tho right? wouldnt mind jus getting a new shaft and seals, Marks still in my head tho lol

[ellis93]

I would doubt it would go bad over time, its not a gallon of milk
You more than likely have something it drives froze up, vacuum pump or P.S.pump

[Richie O]

My buddy had one just break. I don't think he replaced anything but the shaft. I don't think the pump let go of anything, he just lost the vac and ps.

[Hansen01]

well now im in a pickle,lol one for replace everything cus somethings froze and one that says it may not be froze lol any way to tell???

[ellis93]

There sure is.......tear it down . I think your headed that direction any how.

Its weird to me that a shaft would just break without a cause. There is,however,one thing I've learned about any vehicle, there is no "never" and there is no "always" to any aspect of them so "who knows" applies every time.